

While the SONDORS LX and Cruiser step-through models have just started shipping, the Rockstar electric mountain bike and MadMods electric moped won’t ship until later this winter and spring, respectively.

The bikes were originally unveiled throughout the summer and fall of 2019, a chaotic period in the e-bike industry when the COVID-19 pandemic was causing huge delays in production. On a sunny Los Angeles morning earlier this week, Electrek team member David O’Connell (aka DOC) met up with SONDORS product director Matt Irish to check out the new e-bikes.įour shiny new electric bikes were laid out before a mix of trails and tarmac. Electrek can also get you $50 off one of the new e-bikes (or any e-bike from SONDORS, for that matter) by getting a personalized coupon code. We got the chance to test out the company’s latest four models including the SONDORS Rockstar, Cruiser, LX, and the upcoming SONDORS MadMods electric moped. You didn't pick a winner, you chose a different side of the same coin.Electric bicycle company SONDORS has been busy over the last six months, unveiling a handful of new e-bikes and rushing them into production. It will probably end up slower than they originally advertised, have mid-stream changes dropped on paid owners, come to realize that it is 90% non-proprietary Chinese EV drivetrain components, and the delivery fees are going to be high (hiding unit profit in the freight charge). The $1,300 difference isn't going to allow for much more leeway in the production process to a real product. My point is that you should just temper your expectations that Ryvid won't do at least half as bad. But, remember that that is what could be accomplished by the people who tried, who have experience in manufacturing, during a pandemic. Yes, they have communicated poorly and just barely got to production delivery a year late, changed specs on customers. and adding some.while reducing the net driveline efficiency. The cost of it is taking a drive motor with practically no wearable parts. The available gear ratios are 2.are a stock feature of the manufacturers off the shelf motor, and is a silly design ploy for the sake of being able to say the Ryvid can travel up to a higher speed. Having it placed inboard actually increases its complexity because you need a belt and sprockets, and creates design restrictions to allow for the unit's air cooling. Neither bike has a use in mind where the reduction of sprung weight will matter, over a hub motor. The mid-drive motor location is irrelevant. There's no real tech-advantage to be had. It's just a game of pick-a-frame, marketing strategy, and management. You could literally place an order for all of the same components right now, with your own customizations/branding, and make your own "FlatSix993-Cycle" to bring to market. The Wheels, Motor, Controller, DC-DC inverter, Display, possibly forks and rear shock (at least the ones in the prototypes and PR photos), Battery, Charger (from the port pictures - Which BTW is a lower wattage charger than Sondors), and (albeit custom version) hand controls are all sourced the same manufacturer as Sondors. The "balanced mid-drive" is a technically a less powerful motor driven by a different waveform from the controller.which is made by the same Chinese acompany (again). That "Cheap hub-drive motor" is manufactured by the same Chinese company that the Ryvid unit is. "Designed and Assembled in the United States" - Not manufactured/developed/sourced - Crafty wording.īoth bikes are just configurations of the same materials, packaged differently, with different design philosophies. Ryvid seems to want to manufacture the steel frame parts before final assembly in California. Sondors is assembled over seas, shipped nearly complete, and uses a cast aluminum frame. These two bikes are like two dissimilar brothers. Plus, there is at least a few ex-Sondors employees at Ryvid now. ICON was a disaster, had exploded costs by delivery, sketchy practices, and was a shit idea in the first place. It shouldn't be hard launching post-pandemic, but then again when Ryvid is faced with all the production woes and decisions it could be more of the same thing while trying to go from paper-to-product.īesides, flaunting the legitimacy of Ryvid due to a design engineer with just as much legal bullshit and issues as Sondors won't get you anywhere. Hopefully, Ryvid will be more polished and transparent than Sondors as they approach production and all the inevitable problems, and the company management and the product launch will be different. I'd stop throwing stones at the comparison of the performance thus far of Sondors vs the better you hope to get out of Ryvid. To be direct, you really don't know what you're talking about.
